Crossover Powersets.. A Daydream..

Hi

While I play I oft imagine this or that.. its important to the enjoyment of my playing.
Here is one idea that has been going around my head for a VERY long time; Crossover Powersets.

If you have seen my post on Fire and how I thought it was already a crossover powerset (an old glitch that was fixed in 2013) you'll already know where I am coming from.

We already have a crossover powerset in Sorcery, that we have: a DPS Pet, Healer Pet, and a Tank Pet. Fury DPS, Watcher Healer and Guardian Tank. I must say the devs have done a great job with Guardian as Tank.. he is *OK* and I mean he is OK for a proper human group member, like a novice *human* Tank player. He gets how to Tank. I am very pleased with him currently, and if we are without a Tank, I will switch to my Tank Pet Armory, which is me in DPS stance with Guardian and he is, if not perfect, a close and *useable* Tank.

Fire I feel would make a great second addition to crossover powersets. In DPS stance, I would like to see 'Inferno' heal players within the AOE, giving them a slight HoT.. aptly named hehe, a slight HoT and damage out-based healing while you are aflame. That would be enough. nothing else would be needed.

In Tank stance for Fire, I think it already provides white damage immunity, but i'd have to check that.

For Gadgets Controller.. I would like to have a pet that acts like Watcher does but for Power. A Controller Pet, we have Drone, which does do this in a strange kinda way, he just generally PoTs the group and doesn't charge anyone. A major problem is that he is a supercharge, if he were a normal power he could be permanent, he shield (up to 4), revive KO'd players, PoT and charge.

For Turret, it might be good to make him a Tank, as he does *such pitiful damage* especially compared to Fury and Crystal, at least then as a Tank he could be a usable group member in DPS stance.

I think that would complete the Crossover Powersets :)

regardless I am glad to have shared these ideas

have a great day!

Sigma


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Sorcery  = Healer/DPS          Crossover = Tank (Pet)
Fire        = Tank/DPS             Crossover = Healer
Gadgets = Controller/DPS     Crossover = Tank (Pet) and improved Pet Controlling.

I spent some time testing Turret as a Tank (I was DPS stance), he was *awful* in FOS3, the mobs just ignored him, I would have liked to see his grenade be a Tank taunt, as it does near zero damage (he was cr 171 the mobs were cr 80 and he couldn't damage them with the grenade at all and with the rest of his attacks, while he did do a little damage, it was so little while I was waiting for him to kill them, I lost half my health O.O) .

I know Gadgets is AM powerback, and so you get the crits like Mental, but this is not so in Troller Stance, so this could be remodeled to be more like Sorcery but for Controller Stance only.

Fire does still have issues with the AM powerback, but these are seemingly intentional. I would remove the 'Volatility' so the AM could start working like other powers do normally.

Sigma's Character List for the Forums..

Trifecta:

1. Controller
2. Tank
3. Healer


Main Trifecta

SigmaAtom = Mental    = Cr 302 = SP 400
ZigmaAtom = Earth       = Cr 289 = SP 376
XigmaAtom = Sorcery   = Cr 288 = SP 377

Secondary Trifecta
SgmaAtom = Light (GL)   = Cr 288 = SP 340
ZgmaAtom = Rage (RL)    = Cr 289 = SP 355
XgmaAtom = Electricity   = Cr 285 = SP 340

Tertiary Trifecta
SygmaAtom = Gadgets  = Cr 289 = SP 347
ZygmaAtom = Ice          = Cr 286 = SP 340
XygmaAtom = Nature   = Cr 288 = SP 342*

Quaternary Trifecta
SigmæAtom = QDPS/QT  = Cr 288 = SP 339
ZigmæAtom = Atomic      = Cr 286 = SP 345
XigmæAtom = Water        = Cr 288 = SP 345

Quinary Trifecta
SigmaÆtom = Munitions = Cr 286 = SP 342
ZigmaÆtom = Fire          = Cr 287 = SP 340
XigmaÆtom = Celestial    = Cr 289 = SP 340

Female
BetaAtom = Rage (Female Star Sapphire, placeholder) = Cr 230 = SP 340

Villain

TeraAtom= Light (YL) = Cr 256* = SP 308
PhiAtom = Atomic/Iconic (Female Indigo Tribe placeholder) = Cr 257 = SP 94


Hero (unleagued)
Xigma4tom = Water (Blue Lantern  placeholder) = Cr 170 = SP 88
I have a secondary Water char that will be the main Water if we get a (Blue) Lantern Healer. ^

Census: OrderoftheRedSun
EUPC + Xbox 360 controller.


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29/Mar/18
Mental was switched from GL on March 2016. Earth was switched from RL at CR 70 and Sorcery was switched from Celestial from also CR 70 (iirc Spring 2015). Only 2 were boosted : Water (boost to cr 100 see below) and one* other to CR 100; the rest were played from tutorial to current CR.

* I forget which one.. thinking either nature or munitions. probably munitions..
14/03/2017

I was Hard Light GL from PC FTP (Autumn 2011) to March 2016 when I switched to Mental, but made a GL char one month later which I leveled. So I am still a GL Veteran.

All the above have both roles, DPS and Secondary role, some are a little low in DPS stance, due to being underpowered, like Nature and Electricity DPS.

*Used the Halloween 2020 free advance for .. TeraAtom/173CR.. to advance him.  255CR. Currently 256CR (same time). Before 173.. I *don't think* I had ever used an advance on him. 02/Oct/2020

^ stats revamp

Leveled a Female Villain (Atomic/Iconic mixed) to CR 32 (few days ago) then used the January 2020 Anniversary level skip today to get her to 255 on her. (11th/Jan/2020)


I also have a couple of chars on the US server. Highest being a T5 iirc QDPS. I have a 'placeholder char' for a blue lantern.. which might end up being Water, but I doubt it, I think I will switch my moonlighting char (names a secret) to Water as I resent not having a lantern healer yet, but im just being a baby. hehe. it's true.. but when i would be playing as Water Sigma, it's all I would be thinking about and so ruin the experience. OR I could change BetaAtom to Water and finish my fifth trifecta.. thoughts thoughts.. ⅁.⅁

placeholder:

XigmæAtom - Sorcery = Cr 100 = SP 108
^ now Water.




As I laid out before, the ability to switch rings for lantern healers would be cool. The above is my placeholder for a Blue Lantern Healer which could also switch to Indigo Tribe being a Hero, but being male, could not be a Star Sapphire, with BetaAtom being a Hero, could have access to all three power ring corps. A Villain female char would have access to Indigo Tribe and Star Sapphire.. it is little known about the Star Sapphire that the 'Predator' is a villain and it is because Carol Ferris is a Hero we see them as heroes. Male Villains would only have access to Indigo Tribe as they are Neutral.

hmm i feel like doing a flowchart :D

                   Male ---
                   |            Blue Lantern
                   |            Indigo Tribe
--Hero--> |
                   |
                   |
                   Female --
                                  Blue Lantern
                                  Indigo Tribe
                                  Star Sapphire

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Male ---
                     |            Indigo Tribe        
--Villain-->|
                     |
                     Female --
                                    Indigo Tribe
                                    Star Sapphire                                                                                                                                                                          

It's an agonizing wait until they (DB) finish the Lantern Trifecta, it's not 'confirmed' but as Mepps put it will be 'considered' along with a load of other new powers to be considered, but seeing how it has major support from both the Lantern fan base and even Lantern opponents (people who don't want new Lantern content but sympathize that there should definitely be a Lantern Healer) ..I think Lantern Healer will get bumped to if not top, near top of the queue.                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        US Server

Zigma4tom = QDPS/QT = Cr 98 = SP 159*
SigmaAtomE9 = Fire = Cr 39 = SP 115*
SigmaAtomE2 = Celestial = Cr 2 = SP 11











*(I have a female char called 'BetaAtom' she *was* nature, but I got so frustrated wanting her to be a healer lantern SS I changed her to Rage *just* to get a power ring.
BetaAtom = Rage = Cr 151 = SP 240) see above.
*Future Brainiac SigmaAtom hehe
*E9 = Earth 9 of the multiverse

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ITS TWINS!  :D

DPS

Mental /=/ Gadgets
Fire  /=/   Ice
Earth /=/ Sorcery

I find Fire and Ice Tank very dissimilar when practising, and think Fire is a lot like Rage and Atomic Tanking. But I don't have *any* in game experience Ice Tanking. I get the idea though.

Nature and Electric DPS have similarities, but I don't know if i'd go as far as call them 'twins'.
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14th Nov 2017

Armories

All have 1 base unless otherwise stated.

Main Trifecta

SigmaAtom = Mental   4 Bases/10 Armories* = 4B/10A
ZigmaAtom = Earth      4A
XigmaAtom = Sorcery   5A

Secondary Trifecta
SgmaAtom = Light (GL)   4A
ZgmaAtom = Rage (RL)    4A
XgmaAtom = Electricity   3A

Tertiary Trifecta
SygmaAtom = Gadgets  4A
ZygmaAtom = Ice          3A
XygmaAtom = Nature   2A

Quaternary Trifecta
SigmæAtom = QDPS/QT  3A
ZigmæAtom = Atomic      3A
XigmæAtom = Water        3A

Quinary Trifecta
SigmaÆtom = Munitions 3A
ZigmaÆtom = Fire          4A
XigmaÆtom = Celestial   4A

BetaAtom = Rage 4A

Villain
TeraAtom= Light (YL)  3A
PhiAtom = Atomic/Iconic 2A

ALL have both roles.



SigmaAtom =
2 Troller Armories
5 DPS Armories
1 DPS PVP Armory
1 Troller PVP Armory
1 DPS PVP Phase Armory

'Content Branch Wings'.. Tech Meta Magic

I have seen a few people say on the forums, that there has been 'enough' lantern content. Last week it struck me how much content is magic centric..

TECH               

Batman Mentor                                                                               

Missions

Jokers Funhouse

The Greenhouse

Old Gotham Subway

Gotham Sewer

Regal Hotel

Monarch Playing Cards

Iceberg Lounge

OMAC Base
Cape Carmine
Star Labs Satellite
The First Piece

Harleys Heist

Wayne Manor Gala

Battle for Earth

duos x 3

Gorilla Island

Oolong Island

Ace Chemicals

Area 51

Bludhaven

Hive Moon Base

WT Containment

Facility 

SG Courthouse

Strykers Island alert

Arkham Asylum

Brothers in Arms

Return to the Nexus

The Bombshell Paradox

Prison Break

A Rip in Time

Batcave

1, 2, & 3 raids

Paradox Wave 

Nexus of Reality

Huntress Iconic

Solo

Thirty eight instances &

NO NEW TECH LANDS.

wow.

META  

Superman Mentor 

Missions

Meta Research Wing

Star Labs Facility solo

Test Subject #1

Science Spire

Gorilla Grodd's Lab

Flashback

Ferris Aircraft

Hall of Doom Recovery

Spark of Ion

Corrupted Zamaron

FOS x3
Assault and Battery
Love and War

Blackest Day

Blackest Night

Brainiac's Bottled Ship

Kandor Central Tower

Smallville

Star Labs RF alert (Green/Sinestro Corps)

Oan Sciencells

Coast City

Mist Recovery

Strike Team

Zamaron Conversion Chamber

Avarice Impurity

Phantom Zone

Twenty eight instances &

One and bit new lands:

Metropolis BattleZone

Central City aka three car parks and a museum

MAGIC

Wonder Woman

Mentor Missions

8th Precinct

Manheim Chinese Theatre

Circe's Stronghold

Circe's Trial

Aegis of Truth

Deep Desires

Shadowlands

Gotham Uni (Isis duo)

Knightsdome Arena

Tunnel of Lust

Ruined Cathedral

Supply Lines

Port of Paradise

Wasteland Wonderland

Raising Hades

Wayward Souls

Trigon's Prison

Themy Divided

Act of Defiance

Desecrated Cathedral

Underworld Trials

Kandaq

With a Vengeance

A Black Dawn

The Gates of Tartarus

Labyrinth of Lost Souls

Halls of Hades

Throne of the Dead

Unholy Matrimony

Olympus

God of Monsters

Thirty one instances &

three new lands:

Gotham Wastelands

Gotham Under Siege

Typhon Invasion

LoA content is technically Tech but with a little magic thrown in. 

wasn't sure if to include.

I did not include the Spectre 

as I would class that as Meta. but it's mixed Meta and Tech. 

I dunno if the Spectre's meant to be magic, but since his basis is the real life Angel Raphael, so I'll say no.

I did not include Halls of Power, 

which feels to me like 

Magic content. I have no idea

what its all about. im not a fan.

Halls of Power.. is something about a guy who seems Meta or Tech, but then he's chasing a magic item of the Source to get it to talk, his backup is a bunch of people who look like they had too many disco biscuits and caused then escaped from a paintball factory explosion. The hero guys talk you like you are a piece of dirt and call themselves 'Gods' and there are insects for no apparent reason running around a small area getting killed that you have to save.. oh and there is a load of dead people attacking you called dregs that look like they escaped from Skyrim. Stop me if this gets too weird!

.. so far sounding like magic to me..

If this is what DC has up against GoTG.. flip! I had a goood and groovy time watching that movie! I understood it. this ^..nah. dont like it.


Additional:

Powers;

Tech

Gadgets

Nature
Ice
Quantum
Munitions
Experimental Serums (u)

Meta

Fire
Earth
Rage (RL)
Light (GL/YL)
Atomic
Mental (Gorilla Grodd)
Electricity (The Flash)

Magic

Sorcery
Celestial
Electricity (Shazam)
Water (u)

REDONE
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It came to my attention, that Lantern Powers are technology based. Perhaps it's the entities who are meta. and the Guardians learned how to harness their power.



I have seen a few people say on the forums, that there has been 'enough' lantern content. Last week it struck me how much content is magic centric..

I will redo this and include  LoA and Lanterns as Tech, Spectre as Magic (which I find really offensive), and HoP as Meta, shame since it talks and feels like Magic content.



TECH            

Batman Mentor                                                                            
Missions


Jokers Funhouse
The Greenhouse
Old Gotham Subway
Gotham Sewer
Regal Hotel
Monarch Playing Cards
Iceberg Lounge
OMAC Base
Cape Carmine
Star Labs Satellite
Ferris Aircraft
The First Piece
Harleys Heist
Wayne Manor Gala
Battle for Earth
duos x 3

League of Assassins
Demon's Pit
Demon's Plan

Gorilla Island
Oolong Island
Ace Chemicals
Area 51
Bludhaven
Hive Moon Base
WT Containment
Facility
SG Courthouse
Strykers Island alert
Arkham Asylum
Brothers in Arms
Return to the Nexus
The Bombshell Paradox
Prison Break
Assault and Battery
Love and War
Blackest Day
Blackest Night
Star Labs RF alert (Green/Sinestro Corps)
Oan Sciencells
Coast City
Mist Recovery
Strike Team
Zamaron Conversion Chamber
Avarice Impurity
A Rip in Time
Spark of Ion

Spark of Parallax

Corrupted Zamaron

Batcave
1, 2, & 3 raids

Paradox Wave
Nexus of Reality

Huntress Iconic
Solo

Fifty four instances &
one new Tech Land:
Metropolis BattleZone.



META

Superman Mentor
Missions

Meta Research Wing
Star Labs Facility solo
Test Subject #1
Science Spire

Gorilla Grodd's Lab
Flashback
Hall of Doom Recovery

FOS x3

Brainiac's Bottled Ship
Kandor Central Tower
Smallville
Phantom Zone

Halls of Power (11 instances):
League Hall: Security Breach
Artifacts from the Past
Intergang Crime Wave
League Hall: Lockdown
Necropolis: Relics of Urgrund
Resource Recovery
League Hall: Malfunction
Fatal Exams
Happiness Home
Happiness Home (Elite)
New Genesis Now


Twenty seven instances &
two small room areas.
Central City
New Genesis



MAGIC

Wonder Woman
Mentor Missions


8th Precinct
Manheim Chinese Theatre
Circe's Stronghold
Circe's Trial
Aegis of Truth
Deep Desires
Lair of the Spectre

Shadowlands
Gotham Uni (Isis duo)
Knightsdome Arena
Tunnel of Lust
Ruined Cathedral
Supply Lines
Port of Paradise
Wasteland Wonderland
Raising Hades

Wayward Souls
Trigon's Prison
Themy Divided
Act of Defiance
Desecrated Cathedral
Underworld Trials

Kandaq
With a Vengeance
A Black Dawn
The Gates of Tartarus
Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Halls of Hades
Throne of the Dead
Unholy Matrimony
Olympus
God of Monsters

Thirty two instances &
three new Magic lands:

Gotham Wastelands
Gotham Under Siege
Typhon Invasion




While I still feel, Halls of Power walks and talks like Magic content and Lantern content walks and talks like Meta content, it's categorized above as it is on the wiki, as Meta and Tech content, respectively. LoA content is ninja style Tech, even though Ra's al Ghul himself is Magic.

The areas for Meta are too small to be considered a 'new land'. The HoP area is appallingly small, and while I do like Central City, likewise, is it not even the size of Little Bohemia to consider it a 'city' which Gotham Wastelands is; large enough to be a new city.

Since 2012 players have been asking to expand Central City, I have been one of those players. If the Devs took Little Bohemia and used it as template for Central City, giving us the ability to have player bases, to have the CC bounties in Central City, they could use the new city to be cut-up for the later usage, which is what Central City is now, a small cut up area.

As far as New Genesis goes.. I never go in there, don't like it. It is super tiny because of the cavernous causeways and room size ceiling.. after setting the tone of Gotham and Metropolis, you could tell the Devs LOVED what they were doing, and in so much as this, I could instantly tell, they had not put the same love into New Genesis when I saw the tight ceiling size, and felt this was an evaluation of us as players, what we were worth to them. And in this, I was never going to like the content, which I initially tried to as I was unfamiliar with Darkseid et~al.






Additional:

Powers;

Tech

Gadgets (Batman/Joker)
Nature (Poison Ivy/Beast Boy)
Ice (Mr Freeze/Killer Frost)
Rage (RL)
Light (GL/YL)
Quantum (Rip Hunter/Major Force)
Munitions

Meta

Fire (Superman/Heat Wave)
Earth (Terra?)
Atomic (FireStorm)
Mental (Gorilla Grodd/ Martian Manhunter)
Electricity (The Flash)


Magic

Sorcery  (Circe)
Celestial (Wonder Woman)
Electricity (Shazam/Black Adam)
Water (u) (Aquaman)

Cancelled:
Experimental Serums (u) (Bane)

Mepps said:

"We do not have plans to continue development on serums. 

We do have plans to continue development on water, after the stats revamp. 

Just to clarify!"

23rd of Feb 2017.
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IMHO most 'popular' suggested powersets

Shadow Controller.. I would make Tank.
Cosmic Controller
Lantern Healer